Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Severe COVID-19 Infection

For those of you new to the page/blog, I am a Critical Care physician. My team and I are usually the last line of care patients receive. Many of you are part of my extended team working in ICU's throughout the world. I would honestly love for this combination of HCQ and azithro to work. This study makes us further curb our enthusiasm.

A bit of background:
The two French studies that "showed a benefit" as well as the Chinese study I posted that "showed a benefit" were conducted in patients who were NOT critically ill. This paper was published on March 30th. I'm late to the party, I know. But it correlates with the anecdotal experience I've noted from various facilities who are taking care of critically ill patients.

We get another small study here. n=11. They weren't critically ill when they started the data collection but within 5 days, 1 died and 2 were transferred to the ICU.

Regimen: HCQ 600mg daily x 10 days + Azithromycin 500mg on day 1, 250mg on days 2-5.

Results: 8 patients still had positive RNA at days 5 to 6 after treatment initiation.

Bottom line: in this subset of patients, there was no rapid clearance of COVID-19 by giving this combination. It wasn't as 100% as the Gautret/Raoult studies that I have taken apart in the past. This study is also fraught with flaws. No control group, small, no baseline characteristics. They do not define what made these patients "severe" as opposed to mild or moderate. They could have also waited the full 10 days of therapy. I guess they were in a rush to pump out data or they're going to publish the full data in a couple days and have two publications for their CV instead of just one. Sigh.

I am personally not excited about the HCQ/Azithro combo in my critically ill patients.

Molina JM, Delaugerre C, Goff JL, Mela-Lima B, Ponscarme D, Goldwirt L, de Castro N, No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection, Me ́decine et Maladies Infectieuses (2020), doi: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.medmal.2020.03.006

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Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: An Appraisal on the Study Published on 3/27/20

We have an update now from the same researchers in France regarding hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in COVID-19. It's a free PDF and I recommend you read it yourself. Don't trust me. 

This study has me scratching my head. Their first study seemed like they rushed it out the door to light the fire for some more research. This study seems like they're deliberately hiding things from us or trying to remain obscure. 

Methods:
This is an observational study, meaning they didn't have any controls.

80% of patients got a CT chest and (almost) every patient had a daily nasopharyngeal swab.
They all got an EKG before treatment and two days after treatment began. They had criteria to not start therapy based on some findings listed in the article. 

Treatment regimen:
Hydroxychloroquine 200mg three time a day for 10 days
Azithromycin 500mg on day 1, then 250 daily for 4 days


End points (these are not your typical endpoints):

Clinical Outcome (oxygen therapy or ICU transfer)
Contagiousness by PCR and culture
Length of stay in the ID ward

Things to know:
n=80
4 patients were asymptomatic carriers (then why were they in the COVID unit?)
92% of the patients were less ill based on their made up NEWS score
52.8% had lower respiratory infections/pneumonia. 

Results:
We don't have any controls to know if this is the normal course of the infection or if the hydroxychloroquine actually worked or not. I forgive them for not having controls in the prior study but this is now too much. 
93.8% were discharged with a low NEWS score. Don't forget that 92% had a low news score to begin with!
3 patients still ended up in the ICU. 

The nasopharyngeal viral load fell. Sure. Cool. Thanks. But does this normally fall at this rate without treatment? We need controls. Is the decrease in contagiousness the normal evolution or the drugs working? We don't know. No controls. 

I'm tired of reviewing this study. You all get my point. I am in favor of trying it, but I feel like there's some academic dishonesty happening here. 

I really want this to work. I really really do. We need some good news but we also need to solidify our management with better data. 

-EJ

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